
πDon't Build It Before They Buy It: Ryan Connor's Game-Changing Advice for SaaS Agencies
Ever spent months building the "perfect" solution... only to hear crickets when you launch?
Yeah, we've all been there. π
I recently sat down with Ryan Connor, founder of Growthable (a white-label support and onboarding service for HighLevel agencies), and he dropped some serious wisdom that every SaaS agency owner needs to hear.
The Kitchen Analogy That Changed Everything π³
Ryan uses this brilliant cooking analogy to explain how most agencies get it backwards:
Imagine you're a chef, and someone walks into your kitchen saying they're hungry. Most agencies would say: "Wait! Let me show you everything I've prepared! Here's my menu with 47 items, my pricing tiers, my SaaS configurator..."
But Ryan says you should say: "I can make you anything. What do you like?"
Here's why this matters:
They tell you: "I like chicken, salad, and mashed potatoes"
You respond: "Cool, that's in my wheelhouse. Let me make that for you."
They pay you first π°
Then you build it
The Golden Rule: Build to Order, Not to Spec π
Ryan's #1 tip for agency owners? Stop building in isolation.
Here's his process:
β Have conversations with potential customers
β Listen to what THEY need (not what you think they need)
β Get them to pay you upfront
β THEN build the solution
Why this works:
π― You're solving real problems, not imaginary ones
β° You have a deadline (because someone paid you!)
πͺ You're motivated AF to deliver
π« Zero risk of building something nobody wants
The Brutal Truth About Pre-Building π¬
Ryan put it perfectly: "Don't spend three months trying to build something and then just expect hundreds of signups."
The reality check:
You might not know the person asking about "chicken" actually wants it with specific ingredients
Your pre-built solution might be solving problems that don't exist
You're wasting TIME and MONEY on features nobody asked for
Never Mention the Software First π€«
Here's a mind-blowing insight from Ryan: He has entire sales conversations without ever mentioning HighLevel.
Why? Because if HighLevel disappeared tomorrow, he should still be able to deliver value to his clients.
The conversation should be about:
Marketing automation
Sales processes
Business outcomes
Customer success
NOT about:
Features
Integrations
Platform specifics
Ryan's had conversations that started with HubSpot, moved to Salesforce, and landed on HighLevel... but the outcome the client wanted never changed. π‘
About Growthable: The Customer Success Team in a Box π¦
So what does Ryan's company actually do? Growthable provides white-label support and onboarding for HighLevel SaaS agencies.
Their Secret Sauce:
π€ AI + Human Support: 24/7 live chat with real people (not just bots!)
π True White-Label Knowledge Base: Your logo, your URL, your content
π― Unlimited Onboarding: Standard plans include unlimited onboarding sessions (up to 2 hours each)
π Customer Success Metrics: Track satisfaction scores, response times, and ROI
π¨ Customizable Widgets: Brand it however you want
The Pricing Plans Breakdown π΅
Ryan structured his plans around the four phases of agency growth:
π Free Plan
Perfect for brand-new agencies
AI-powered support widget
No human support, but trained on thousands of conversations
Great starter option
π Premium Plan - $399/month
For agencies just getting started
Support for the AGENCY (not end-users yet)
24/7 live chat for 5-10 sub-accounts
Limited onboarding
β Standard Plan - $497/month (Most Popular!)
About 50% of customers choose this one
2 hours of onboarding per client
Unlimited onboarding sessions
Standard SOP (handles A2P, Facebook Ads Manager, etc.)
24/7 live chat, guided tours, knowledge base
Theme customizer
π₯ Pro Plan - $799/month
For agencies with custom needs
Everything in Standard, PLUS:
Custom onboarding SOPs
Priority ticketing
Fully customizable widget
Can handle custom integrations, AI voice systems, power dialers, etc.
π Dedicated Plan
For scaling agencies that need identity
Your own dedicated team member from Growthable
They ONLY work with your brand
Can do VA tasks, run office hours, update systems
Perfect stepping stone before hiring full-time
The Customer Success Mindset π
Ryan doesn't call what they do "support" - he calls it customer success. Here's the difference:
Support = Reactive π΄
Answer tickets
Put out fires
Repeat forever
Customer Success = Proactive π―
Track satisfaction scores
Monitor NPS ratings
Identify trends BEFORE they become problems
Drive feature adoption
Reduce churn
The Metrics That Matter:
π Customer satisfaction scores
β±οΈ Average response time (Growthable's is under 2 minutes!)
π¬ Conversation duration (currently 32 min average)
π Onboarding completion rates
π― NPS scores
Here's the ROI math: If you're worth $100/hour and Growthable handles 2 conversations that take 32 minutes each, they've already saved you $200 in productivity. π°
The Future: AI-Powered Insights π€
Ryan's cooking up something special with AI sentiment analysis:
After 100+ conversations, Growthable's system will automatically:
β Analyze common themes in customer questions
β Recommend which FAQs to create
β Identify pain points across your entire customer base
β Generate quarterly business reviews with actionable insights
All happening in real-time in a single dashboard. π₯
Ryan's Scientific Approach to Business π¬
One of my favorite moments in our chat was when Ryan talked about thinking like a scientist:
Scientists are happiest when a preconceived notion is absolutely shattered. π€―
But as business owners? We dig our heels in. We think we know what works.
Ryan's advice:
Get a coach or accountability team
Work with people who are levels above you
Let them shatter your assumptions EVERY WEEK
Be happy about it
He didn't get a coach until March this year, and it completely changed his trajectory. Working with people doing 7-figures daily (not monthly) gave him perspective he never would have gotten alone.
The Bottom Line π―
Stop building in a vacuum.
Have conversations. Understand problems. Get paid. THEN build.
As Ryan said: "Just go and speak to people. Tell them what you CAN do, let them tell you what they WANT, and build to order."
Your job isn't to be a mind reader. It's to be a solution provider who's skilled enough to deliver what customers actually need - not what you think they might want someday.
Want to learn more about Growthable? They're offering a completely free AI support widget to get started. No humans behind it yet, but it's trained on thousands of real support conversations and could be a game-changer for new agencies.
And if you're in Australia? Ryan just wrapped up their first-ever HighLevel mastermind event down under with Chase, Wesley, and the HighLevel founders on Zoom. The community is growing worldwide! π
Sign up at: http://levelupyoursaas.com/growthable today!
